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From: The Entheogenic Evolution podcast series
In this episode of the Entheogenic Evolution, my friend Martin Ball interviews Dr. Rick Strassman. Who shares his thoughts on DMT, UFO's, aliens, spiritual realities, psychedelic research which have just been published entitled Inner Paths to Outer Space: Journeys to Alien Worlds through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies by Doctor's Rick Strassman, Slawek Wojtowiez, Luis Eduardo Luna and Ede Frecska. Unfortunately the audio recording of the actual interview has some technical difficulties. So Martin created a transcript which he reads from. I recommend downloading the mp3 file and if listening to it in front of your PC, read along with them. See the Transcript on RickStrassman.com.
Its interesting to hear Dr. Strassman's thought & reflections today, nearly a decade after DMT: The Spirit Molecule: A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experiences was published.
"I had taken about 1000 pages of notes by the beside of the volunteers – 400 DMT sessions that we gave them over the space of about 5 years – and in reviewing people’s accounts of their experiences, probably half, maybe more, reported having the experience of being in some sort of contact, some sort of relationship, more or less passive, more or less active, with these free standing, discretely demarcated, sentient sort of beings. I ended up calling them "beings" rather than "entities" or "aliens" or any of that sort of thing because it seemed like the most neutral term to use, but they were described in various shapes and forms and guises. Sometimes they were humanoid, sometimes they were insectoid, sometimes they were reptilian, and sometimes plant-like. They were more or less aware of the volunteers. Oftentimes they seemed to be expecting the volunteers and were glad to see them, and then began interacting with them.
Other times they seemed surprised and angry that the volunteers’ consciousness, at the very least, had intruded upon the sphere of activity of that particular being. Sometimes the volunteers were treated or experimented on. Sometimes they experienced some type of sexual intercourse with the beings. Some were told scenarios of the future. Others were marked somehow or another for future reference in a way. Others showered light and love onto them. Others were guides to lead them to some other place, like through a tunnel leading to a typical near death or mystical experience. So it was the whole gamut of what you might expect." Rick Strassman